tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post3264245119151908275..comments2024-03-10T06:07:53.511-07:00Comments on Crazy in Suburbia: Mom tries to break through Orinda’s Code of Silence to find answers to the mystery of her son’s deathMartha Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-45346262673846548042009-08-28T18:25:24.054-07:002009-08-28T18:25:24.054-07:00In response to the Aug 25th post...
Your comment i...In response to the Aug 25th post...<br />Your comment is quite cruel. I believe the truth is worth knowing and it shocks me that anyone would disagree. How can peace and forgiveness ever be forthcoming without it? Is the lesson to the kids of this community that you can commit a serious breach of morality, if not the law, and in your silence not be culpable? His family all those who loved Joe Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-17234118315092354412009-08-25T15:19:54.076-07:002009-08-25T15:19:54.076-07:00We have heard so much from Joe's mother, Maria...We have heard so much from Joe's mother, Marianne Payne, but what about his father? Why hasn't Joe's Dad spoken up? Blamed police, teenagers, alcohol, anything? I understand he is a kind & involved father, so I am left to believe that he does not wish to punish/arrest a kid for the sad mistake his son made. God bless him & Joe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-7687498837634874022009-08-11T23:49:11.121-07:002009-08-11T23:49:11.121-07:00I feel badly for the parents. It is a sad situatio...I feel badly for the parents. It is a sad situation. We all know that teenagers, even the “good ones” tend to think they are invincible and often make poor decisions that do not make sense and lead to trouble and in some cases even their own death or that of a friend. I do not know all the particulars of this incident, but assume this kid was participating in a "pharm party" and mixing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-54961374689688091052009-08-11T09:52:31.474-07:002009-08-11T09:52:31.474-07:008:37,
So, who are you assigning blame to? The ki...8:37,<br /><br />So, who are you assigning blame to? The kids who didn't call the PD initially or the PD who didn't enter the home on the disturbance call or both?<br /><br />I imagine the kids didn't call initially because they thought the boy was just intoxicated. <br /><br />Perhaps the PD didn't feel that they needed to or had the authority to enter the home. There were &#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-6583615771792585742009-08-11T08:37:41.252-07:002009-08-11T08:37:41.252-07:00What is so wrong to want to learn why her son was ...What is so wrong to want to learn why her son was left there on the floor & 911 not called until it was too late to save him. When the PD came at 10:30pm in answer to neighbor complaints)they should have observed the party was out of control and entered the house. They would have found Joe! By the time they returned it was too late. There are time lines on cell phone records that are provingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-50454897100853936982009-08-11T07:39:41.121-07:002009-08-11T07:39:41.121-07:00Old Copper has some very valid points. This mothe...Old Copper has some very valid points. This mother doesn't want to know what happened. She's looking for leads which will result in at least one prosecution for the death of her son. She's doing what many of us would do. She's looking for people to be punished for her son's death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-36208211804675903682009-08-09T16:28:57.362-07:002009-08-09T16:28:57.362-07:00I am all for people getting to the truth if they r...I am all for people getting to the truth if they really want it, my experience after 30 years in law enforcement is that often people really dont want the truth, they want something to ease the pain and make them feel better about terrible circumstances that are often a mix of bad luck, stupid decisions and a bunch of other people who are into themselves and not watching what is goin o n around Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-33737639160421865202009-08-09T14:12:08.724-07:002009-08-09T14:12:08.724-07:00MC: He was revived once & left on the mattress...MC: He was revived once & left on the mattress to die while the PD was at the door. "We will never know?" Yes, and it will be soon. Are you watching the trial in SLO of the Cal Poly students who left a fraternity brother to die under similar circumstances?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-57369234544451294632009-08-09T11:05:08.649-07:002009-08-09T11:05:08.649-07:00guilty of what, murder?
seriously?
do you not re...guilty of what, murder?<br /><br />seriously?<br /><br />do you not remember high school? do you not remember how some kids partied? i never did, but if anything, im surprised accidents like this dont happen more often. and id be willing to bet a good amount of money that it was just an accident.<br /><br />i suppose we will never know, and you will go on thinking that someone was murdered and MChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710141004660041580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-88763098952553496572009-08-08T18:06:14.079-07:002009-08-08T18:06:14.079-07:00MC: If the Orinda PD had done their job that night...MC: If the Orinda PD had done their job that night we would know if someone purposely drugged him. All those people who saw him lying there & did nothing are just as guilty as the peron who provided the drug.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-60321225300537228082009-08-08T07:10:48.635-07:002009-08-08T07:10:48.635-07:00Anon. August 7, 10:18 p.m. Thanks for the copyedit...Anon. August 7, 10:18 p.m. Thanks for the copyediting note. I'm the writer, editor, copyeditor, and I can't be sure, until a few days later, whether I'm making any sense. <br /><br />Dear August 8, 1:11 a.m. and everyone else. You're right. Maybe Marianne Payne won't get any more answers. I hope she does, though. Even if she doesn't, I think her pushing for more Martha Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-11655583312221272832009-08-08T01:11:11.059-07:002009-08-08T01:11:11.059-07:00how would it be justice for joe? do you think some...how would it be justice for joe? do you think someone purposefully drugged him with an intention to hurt him? <br />do you think he would want one of his friends to go to prison over what was most likely an accident?MChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710141004660041580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-26112439249836039662009-08-08T01:11:10.362-07:002009-08-08T01:11:10.362-07:00I can understand the mother wanting answers. Whene...I can understand the mother wanting answers. Whenever there's a tragedy, people look for explanations. But, sadly, sometimes none emerge. <br /><br />Maybe her son took the medication on his own; who's to say someone else would know that's what he did?<br /><br />Or if someone else gave it to him, what then? What would came of that person'd identity coming out? If another person Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-34416318329978806112009-08-07T23:07:51.133-07:002009-08-07T23:07:51.133-07:00they should exhume the body and look for fingerpri...they should exhume the body and look for fingerprints. CSI: OrindaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-91715633490638031512009-08-07T22:18:49.898-07:002009-08-07T22:18:49.898-07:00"These victims always left behind a mother, a..."These victims always left behind a mother, and sometimes a father was in the picture, too."<br /><br />This statement does not make sense. 'always' should be changed to 'usually'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-81009302545696927632009-08-07T16:28:52.412-07:002009-08-07T16:28:52.412-07:00Going to prison would not be tragic, it would be J...Going to prison would not be tragic, it would be Justice for Joe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-80247885376282436682009-08-07T12:34:50.097-07:002009-08-07T12:34:50.097-07:00her son dying is most likely a tragic accident, an...her son dying is most likely a tragic accident, and someone going to jail over what happened would also be tragic.MChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710141004660041580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-28212447062888801762009-08-07T08:44:40.265-07:002009-08-07T08:44:40.265-07:00With medical privacy laws the way they are, I thin...With medical privacy laws the way they are, I think she's gotten as much information as she will get. Tragically her son took or was slipped something that resulted in his death and it is quite possible only he took that information to the grave or one other person who is terrified of being arrested knows about.Masterlocknoreply@blogger.com