tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post3758783046978824856..comments2024-03-10T06:07:53.511-07:00Comments on Crazy in Suburbia: Concern about pope's handling (or mishandling) of clergy sex abuse scandal reaches to Walnut CreekMartha Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-3900700439416181652010-04-13T17:17:23.096-07:002010-04-13T17:17:23.096-07:00Run him out of Dodge!Run him out of Dodge!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-48049159123690350312010-04-13T15:31:22.066-07:002010-04-13T15:31:22.066-07:00Yes, just how did SK get the funds to retire to a ...Yes, just how did SK get the funds to retire to a place that is in one of the most attractive and gracious communities in the country?<br /><br />Also, for those not aware of it, housing within Rossmoor ranges from the modest to the affluent. It will be of the utmost interest to find out what living standards Kiesle had, by way of housing, whilst at Rossmoor. <br /><br />It would also be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-71882362968645077292010-04-13T00:15:33.049-07:002010-04-13T00:15:33.049-07:00I am considered a good Catholic and I agree. Prie...I am considered a good Catholic and I agree. Priests or no priests, right is right and wrong is wrong. I feel it is my good Catholic duty to speak up. I cannot and will not look the other way. Every profession has pedophiles, as they like to hide out and appear normal. Some even feel so guilty about what they do, that they live an outward life of good deeds. Yes, for some it is insincere Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-81542408310324925772010-04-12T22:11:38.369-07:002010-04-12T22:11:38.369-07:00The Pope's personal clergyman compared likened...The Pope's personal clergyman compared likened the criticism of the Church and the vast child sex abuse scandal and coverups to the Holocaust.<br /><br />This Pope reinstated the sale of plenary indulgences.<br /><br />These people have got to go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-47781659787131023272010-04-12T14:02:05.372-07:002010-04-12T14:02:05.372-07:00Thud,
Child molesters seek occupations and enviro...Thud,<br /><br />Child molesters seek occupations and environments in which they'll be exposed to children. That's a given. However, the Church's failure to protect children by allowing child molester priests to continue serving trusting communities, hiding these priests offenses, and hiding behind their cloak of secrecy is, in my opinion as bad or worse than the molesters Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-11783170966726257272010-04-12T13:55:42.389-07:002010-04-12T13:55:42.389-07:0011:22,
I'll bet you $5 that the Church is pay...11:22,<br /><br />I'll bet you $5 that the Church is paying him some sort of retirement, is or did subsidize his home (purchase or rental). Yes, it's speculative, but I'm sure I'm right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-15660443172974429882010-04-12T11:22:13.730-07:002010-04-12T11:22:13.730-07:00Thud -- I respectfully have to disagree with you. ...Thud -- I respectfully have to disagree with you. I can only speak for myself, but certainly I do not blame the Roman Catholic Church or its leadership for the fact that, that at least some sexual abuse of children was committed by its clergy. <br /><br />As you very rightfully point out predators can be found in many walks of life. <br /><br />The problem with the church leadership as it becomesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-52655989222196327022010-04-12T10:56:38.743-07:002010-04-12T10:56:38.743-07:00As far as I am aware we Catholics are rather fond ...As far as I am aware we Catholics are rather fond of our children too. If one looks at many walks of life such as education one will find numerous examples of predators...should we close down education? shun all teachers?or recognise the good works of the many? what arrant nonsense spouted here, a place once full of local information but now being populated by some rather angry individuals.Thudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320037763190473684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-74070300658663632022010-04-11T23:11:12.965-07:002010-04-11T23:11:12.965-07:00Does Kiesle have a retirement from a firm or agenc...Does Kiesle have a retirement from a firm or agency he used to work for? I doubt it. I can only surmise that the Church is paying him a retirement. <br /><br />They balk at paying people who were molested priests, and they don't hesitate to pay the molesters.<br /><br />I can't articulate my disgust -- it just goes too deep. Just remember that when you contribute to the church, when Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-77399756406878933632010-04-11T20:34:28.072-07:002010-04-11T20:34:28.072-07:00The guy is a pedophile, ie, he likes young-uns. T...The guy is a pedophile, ie, he likes young-uns. The Rossmoor community needn't worry.......continue the fight to warm up the pools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-45856715093601596432010-04-11T17:51:56.668-07:002010-04-11T17:51:56.668-07:00Readers may be interested in a message thread on t...Readers may be interested in a message thread on the yourrossmoor chatboard, beginning at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yourrossmoor/message/11850 .<br /><br />Various residents discuss (some a little heatedly) what role, if any, Rossmoor government should take in alerting residents to the presence of sex offenders. <br /><br />They have a right to be left alone. <br /><br />But so do difficult Gilbert Doubetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-12027880052643873172010-04-11T16:54:43.635-07:002010-04-11T16:54:43.635-07:00So, uh, did I read this correctly in that this cre...So, uh, did I read this correctly in that this creep is living in Rosmoor?Masterlocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-70103187426273469882010-04-11T11:35:16.083-07:002010-04-11T11:35:16.083-07:00Correction- ... since PAUL was pope. My bad.Correction- ... since PAUL was pope. My bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-42872216826718881722010-04-11T11:31:20.150-07:002010-04-11T11:31:20.150-07:00Since Martin Luther, the 'church' has been...Since Martin Luther, the 'church' has been proven to have corrupt elements in its hierarchy down to its membership. However the rapes, molestations, and abuse of its children has probably been going on since Peter was pope. And the organization has probably been covering up this kind of criminal behavior ever since. Why isn't the leadership of the Roman Catholic Church in America Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-76806400049121062172010-04-11T08:35:24.446-07:002010-04-11T08:35:24.446-07:00Thud, fair enough question: why worry?
The safety...Thud, fair enough question: why worry?<br /><br />The safety of children. An organization was shown to have problems protecting the children in it's care. When those problems were brought to the organization's attention, their response was to deny and cover up the problem and to protect known criminals while doing nothing to prevent it from happening again. <br /><br />I truly don't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-80265312888782233902010-04-10T17:21:32.279-07:002010-04-10T17:21:32.279-07:00Thud why worry? -- How about because through their...Thud why worry? -- How about because through their cover-up the church allowed sexual abuse of children go on for years and years. What more do you need?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-15037969946153363542010-04-10T13:14:17.267-07:002010-04-10T13:14:17.267-07:00I'm happy with the Church, for those that are ...I'm happy with the Church, for those that are not then there are plenty of alternatives so why worry?Thudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320037763190473684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-888549556977809082010-04-10T09:54:30.642-07:002010-04-10T09:54:30.642-07:00One of the Vatican representatives called it "...One of the Vatican representatives called it " a typical form letter." Much more convenient for the mass mailings they seem to have routinely made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-7598017419056649822010-04-10T09:39:07.407-07:002010-04-10T09:39:07.407-07:00I didn't even read it. I am glad I didn't....I didn't even read it. I am glad I didn't.DumbAsBrickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16369303748430626782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-80678602334389895592010-04-10T09:38:30.157-07:002010-04-10T09:38:30.157-07:00Poor church? The church has massive amounts of res...Poor church? The church has massive amounts of resources and has killed millions of people inside an outside it's congregations since it's inception.<br /><br />Disgusting behavior by a necessary franchise. Such arrogance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-48750160292039571902010-04-10T09:04:22.560-07:002010-04-10T09:04:22.560-07:00Making the poor church the victim of greedy lawyer...Making the poor church the victim of greedy lawyers is really the pot calling the kettle black. <br /><br />It is exactly for power and money why the greedy church for decades and probably centuries has covered up the sexual abuse done by clergy members.<br /><br />It is not becoming to the church to paint itself as a victim now since they couldn't care less for the real victims in order to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-60268967450883626952010-04-10T08:39:48.223-07:002010-04-10T08:39:48.223-07:00I smell lawyers,they smell money.I smell lawyers,they smell money.Thudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320037763190473684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-55807067866930190652010-04-10T05:23:14.384-07:002010-04-10T05:23:14.384-07:00According to SF Gate: ... in Pinole he had been li...According to SF Gate: ... in Pinole he had been living 1 1/2 blocks from 7-year-old Amber Swartz at the time she vanished in 1988.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-90441239782273541052010-04-10T01:47:23.948-07:002010-04-10T01:47:23.948-07:00Eeww. I need to take a shower just from reading th...Eeww. I need to take a shower just from reading that. <br /><br />My feelings for the abuser and his enablers are beyond contempt.<br /><br />And someone who's an ex-priest and an ex-con can afford to retire to Rossmoor?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com