tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post3793053497463214588..comments2024-03-10T06:07:53.511-07:00Comments on Crazy in Suburbia: Petitioner Wars Part II: Neiman Marcus foes win the latest roundMartha Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-44435257246531633682009-06-21T08:33:00.659-07:002009-06-21T08:33:00.659-07:00YIKESYIKESAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-12289460138455198812009-06-21T07:16:41.806-07:002009-06-21T07:16:41.806-07:00"The citizens of Walnut Creek ARE taking back..."The citizens of Walnut Creek ARE taking back their city thanks to Taubman. All the years of frustration with the influence of developer$$ and now one of them has come forth with $$ that give residents a voice. We LOVE IT!"<br /><br />So, Anon 11:13pm, you condone verbal and now physical abuse of our residents by the Taubman Taliban? How far are you willing to go? Will you cheer from Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-4423295812758222782009-06-21T07:06:04.883-07:002009-06-21T07:06:04.883-07:00Anon 11:13 How about that oppressed silent majorit...Anon 11:13 How about that oppressed silent majority? Where were they during city counsel election? They couldn't elect a single representative? Oh no they couldn't be bothered to vote they were too busy shopping at Sun Valley Mall on election day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-2091523904041860852009-06-20T23:43:13.248-07:002009-06-20T23:43:13.248-07:00"The citizens of Walnut Creek ARE taking back..."The citizens of Walnut Creek ARE taking back their city thanks to Taubman."<br /><br />Oh that's precious, just precious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-3449285716348705912009-06-20T23:13:48.258-07:002009-06-20T23:13:48.258-07:00The citizens of Walnut Creek ARE taking back their...The citizens of Walnut Creek ARE taking back their city thanks to Taubman. All the years of frustration with the influence of developer$$ and now one of them has come forth with $$ that give residents a voice. We LOVE IT! It's been a great opportunity to turn the tables and force city hall to recognize the fact that there is a Silent Majority in WC who question the vision and direction thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-19068407411206995102009-06-20T17:57:19.732-07:002009-06-20T17:57:19.732-07:00When will the citizens of Walnut Creek start to ta...When will the citizens of Walnut Creek start to take their City back and stop outside interest to dictate how the City should be run?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-48208686739008396382009-06-20T15:30:23.037-07:002009-06-20T15:30:23.037-07:00One of the Anti-Walnut Creek/Anti-Neiman Marcus he...One of the Anti-Walnut Creek/Anti-Neiman Marcus henchmen threw the female manager of the Farmers Market in Shadelands on the ground this morning when she tried to get him to mave a table out of the Fire Lane. The perp was arrested by the WCPD. More shame on Taubman and their supporters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-56149252719777499922009-06-20T13:39:55.210-07:002009-06-20T13:39:55.210-07:00Hi Soccer Mom, did the CCTimes acknowledge the fac...Hi Soccer Mom, did the CCTimes acknowledge the fact that Neiman Marcus might not end up coming to WC? Macerich could build but there's no guaranty that NM will occupy. Your post said it would be in the Times, did I just miss it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-50698440709985274102009-06-19T20:50:04.792-07:002009-06-19T20:50:04.792-07:00The anti-City mercenaries came to my door today an...The anti-City mercenaries came to my door today and I followed them. <br /><br />8 of 9 of my neighbors signed the pro Neiman Marcus initiative instead of the anti-WC measure.<br /><br />Please sign the petition by the people wearing YELLOW shirts saying Yes on the front and Support Neiman Marcus at Broadway Plaza on the back.<br /><br />Let's work together for Walnut Creek and stop this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-57382548222639742832009-06-19T19:40:38.748-07:002009-06-19T19:40:38.748-07:00I guess that's where some of us just disagree....I guess that's where some of us just disagree. I don't have any problem to get a little bit more urban like feel in the downtown shopping area, but I want the residential areas and particularly the Open Space area protected. If a dense downtown helps to bring in the revenue to afford the luxury of Open Space I welcome NM into town. <br /><br />Just look what is happening to the state Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-28380633049291793382009-06-19T19:25:59.827-07:002009-06-19T19:25:59.827-07:00Anon. 7:00 pm
Right on!
"Growth that is app...Anon. 7:00 pm<br /><br />Right on!<br /><br />"Growth that is appropriate". What a novel idea and so sensible.<br /><br />What is really scary is that we are even having this lengthly discussion at all.<br /><br />Is there no one in city government who really cares about an uncrowded downtown retail area? Why do we need more narrow sidewalks that become canyons from very large Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-86899615372115071472009-06-19T19:00:57.950-07:002009-06-19T19:00:57.950-07:00Yes, "an attractive downtown generates revenu...Yes, "an attractive downtown generates revenue" but a building twice the size of the new library in the center of downtown doesn't sound very attractive. Those who support this project seem to suggest that those who question the NM project want to turn back the clock. The impression I get is that they simply want growth that is appropriate for the space that's left for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-54389606541794494222009-06-19T17:48:37.011-07:002009-06-19T17:48:37.011-07:00The Citizens for a Better Walnut Creek were kicked...The Citizens for a Better Walnut Creek were kicked out of office about twenty years ago. Some of them are trying for a comeback with funding from the Taubman Corporation.<br />Fortunately, the demographics have changed and, in the end, they will fail. <br />I am in the process of tracking down locations of Taubman malls nationwide so that I can advise my friends and relatives to boycott them no Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-63421319160495755892009-06-19T16:16:37.020-07:002009-06-19T16:16:37.020-07:00"Let us keep the downtown WC charm, let us go..."Let us keep the downtown WC charm, let us go back to it."<br />Preventing NM will not get you back there. Have a look at downtown Oakland boarded up storefonts particuarly after the Emporium store went out of business. <br /><br />"Parking is bad enough" I lived in WC for 20 years and otherthan maybe two or three times during a per X-mas shoping frenzy it has never taken me Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-25185767105298689002009-06-19T13:31:30.602-07:002009-06-19T13:31:30.602-07:00Go back to what it was? With all those walnut truc...Go back to what it was? With all those walnut trucks cluttering up the streets. No thanks. <br /><br />One part of town is nice small shops the other part is a shopping mall. We don't have to shop there and they won't put in stores that everyone likes. I like Target some like Nordstorms. If you don't like Nordstorms don't go but don't think it should be shut down for you.<br /Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-87081244386021544062009-06-18T16:40:56.554-07:002009-06-18T16:40:56.554-07:00Sadly all this is promoting me to not shop in Waln...Sadly all this is promoting me to not shop in Walnut Creek. Parking is bad enough, but to add a another large store? Why not keep NM within the existing available space. If you put valet parking, you will loose customers, not gain. Let us keep the downtown WC charm, let us go back to it. <br /><br />Today at CVC on Bancroft there were two gentlemen, one for NM and the other Not. Both were Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-49614324873838216192009-06-18T16:12:19.013-07:002009-06-18T16:12:19.013-07:00We should always be learning something... They und...We should always be learning something... They underestimated the reaction, so they updated the plans based on the concerns, let's move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-40746584627303547622009-06-17T22:04:12.847-07:002009-06-17T22:04:12.847-07:00Anon. 6:48 -
The amendment to the General Plan t...Anon. 6:48 - <br /><br />The amendment to the General Plan that was passed last night is a whole different issue (very minor) than the ones that were made for the Neiman Marcus project and you know it. <br /><br />Last night the Council made an intelligent decision that entailed a land swap that made an existing builing out of compliance with the General Plan by only a little bit. A reasonable Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-62232440166697630772009-06-17T21:51:01.845-07:002009-06-17T21:51:01.845-07:00To 6:48PM Do you mean amended? I'm not sure wh...To 6:48PM Do you mean amended? I'm not sure what refine means in regards to the General Plan. However,in chapter 1, the GP is referred to as the city's "constitution. <br /><br />At a recent council meeting one of the city planners was asked how many times the previous General Plan had been amended and I believe she said 4 or 5 times (that would be over a span of approx 20 years). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-14714516243134262052009-06-17T18:48:28.182-07:002009-06-17T18:48:28.182-07:00The General Plan has always allowed exemptions. Th...The General Plan has always allowed exemptions. They happen all the time! The General Plan is not like the US Constitution that requires extraordinary effort to refine.<br />The City Council refined the General Plan for a new project last night with no opposition. Where were these great Guardians of the General Plan last night?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-71728685970048078522009-06-17T17:05:02.636-07:002009-06-17T17:05:02.636-07:003:25 unfortunately the general doesn't allow f...3:25 unfortunately the general doesn't allow for a major store such as NM. Even you have to understand that in order for a store like MN to survive it has to have a minimal size and of course with that size comes the requirement to provide parking. What you are suggesting is that the general plan would only allow for a smaller store, which would not be a NM. <br />So the question for the cityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-33419119098098750082009-06-17T15:25:27.500-07:002009-06-17T15:25:27.500-07:00The solution,1:55PM, is to build within the guidel...The solution,1:55PM, is to build within the guidelines of the General Plan. Kind of simple when you think about it. Maybe someone can ask Macerich why they don't make it easy on themselves and City Hall and build a biilding with a density of .75 like Crate and Barrel and other neighbors. Across the street, Tiffaney's density of .85 is reasonable. But Macerich originally asked for and gotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-33305779208918600992009-06-17T13:55:48.178-07:002009-06-17T13:55:48.178-07:00So Taubman wants to block NM. So if they win at th...So Taubman wants to block NM. So if they win at the ballot box an anchor store can be built as long as NM doesn't occupy it. This is odd. <br /><br />RAMPART, hmmm why do you need more parking if you have less traffic? I might recommend this group provide ideas to the transportation department on ideas for reducing congestion. Have a RAMPART group perform a study of how long it really takes Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-90596629198114921742009-06-17T13:23:50.817-07:002009-06-17T13:23:50.817-07:00Me neither.Me neither.Martha Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-24162367486147383432009-06-17T13:19:56.540-07:002009-06-17T13:19:56.540-07:00I can't wait until this is over one way or ano...I can't wait until this is over one way or another.Masterlocknoreply@blogger.com