tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post6896407945172642406..comments2024-03-10T06:07:53.511-07:00Comments on Crazy in Suburbia: County requests EIR for controversial Sufism Reoriented Sanctuary projectMartha Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-63037086341288017772012-02-29T23:21:47.610-08:002012-02-29T23:21:47.610-08:00you people need to take a chill pill good lord. ba...you people need to take a chill pill good lord. back off akasm. f*** the sufi temple but if it ends up being built, saranap is walnut creeks butthole anyways. all saranap needs to be destroyed and rebuilt lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-73323743442953730012012-02-20T09:29:33.895-08:002012-02-20T09:29:33.895-08:00Google Meher, the founder of the Sufi in Usa who h...Google Meher, the founder of the Sufi in Usa who has tricked 350 people into giving all their. $$. <br /><br />Sufi is a part of Islam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-52830626089191815602010-12-31T15:38:51.415-08:002010-12-31T15:38:51.415-08:00Suffism Reoriented is a dangerous religeon that us...Suffism Reoriented is a dangerous religeon that uses the occult to "speed up your spirituality" LOG ONTO MEHERABODE,COM AND READ MEHER BABAS DISCOURSES THE PART ON THE OCCULT THINK THATS OK? THEY ARE TELEPATHS. YES THATS RIGHT THEY CAN READ PEOPLES MINDS. OR MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY RAPE YOUR MIND! DO YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE THESE MIND RAPERS TO BUILD BUILDINGS IN OUR WALNUT CREEK? THERE WEB Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-55122253705172142622010-08-05T06:39:15.979-07:002010-08-05T06:39:15.979-07:00Walnut Creek, as I worked there in the mid-90'...Walnut Creek, as I worked there in the mid-90's, was a beautiful place and probably still is. It attracted folks from all over the world. <br /><br />Now WC is similar to my Eastern US popular city; attracting folks from worldwide areas with their new cultures. <br /><br />We have a similar issue, but on a much smaller scale. I suppose when their septic tank overflows during their annual Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-72600066972152669272010-04-04T11:18:19.818-07:002010-04-04T11:18:19.818-07:00Yes, the Sufi defensiveness is difficult for every...Yes, the Sufi defensiveness is difficult for everyone. There are ways to address different points of view in a positive non-judgmental manner. Listening to others, and allowing them to be heard is the first step.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-65818864279213990932010-04-03T09:16:26.553-07:002010-04-03T09:16:26.553-07:00Why are the WC Sufis and their supporters so defen...Why are the WC Sufis and their supporters so defensive? So threatened by these blog reports? Why don't they take the high road and let the process just play out quietly? Enshallah.<br /><br />I don't think the neighbors are opposed to their religious beliefs, after all they aren't "real Sufis".<br /><br />"Defense, I've come to understand, is the first act of war. .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-47997145349021030202010-03-05T11:20:35.251-08:002010-03-05T11:20:35.251-08:00Yup...the Bard used Anon all the time. But in this...Yup...the Bard used Anon all the time. But in this case, bias is bias, and you needn't be a rocket scientist to figure that out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-91962781024964285152010-03-05T00:53:10.161-08:002010-03-05T00:53:10.161-08:00Me thinks he protesteth too much.Me thinks he protesteth too much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-2135025059120222842010-03-03T19:40:41.320-08:002010-03-03T19:40:41.320-08:00AKASM said:
“Dear March 2, 8:35 a.m.
Just pointin...AKASM said:<br />“Dear March 2, 8:35 a.m. <br />Just pointing out that I was told two different versions of how this EIR came about.”<br /><br />Look, if you were “just” pointing anything out, as came out in our exchange, it is that you simply are an individual with a blog – not an objective journalist – who is opposed to the Sanctuary. You clearly admitted so – didn’t even both to post to deny Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-90331569305666608032010-03-03T09:21:13.254-08:002010-03-03T09:21:13.254-08:00Teflon! Just like the County~Teflon! Just like the County~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-3557471369403280382010-03-03T03:37:57.680-08:002010-03-03T03:37:57.680-08:00Dear March 2, 8:35 a.m.
Just pointing out that I ...Dear March 2, 8:35 a.m. <br />Just pointing out that I was told two different versions of how this EIR came about.Martha Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-28786995424641898732010-03-02T08:35:37.213-08:002010-03-02T08:35:37.213-08:00i've never posted onto a blog and don't kn...i've never posted onto a blog and don't know if this will work. I want to ask why SM assumes that representatives of Sufism Re'd are lying to her or to any of us? i have had nothing but open and genuine converstions with any of the members for all the years I have lived here. So far, everything they have explained about their new sanctuary has been shown to be true. With all the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-75618933910497629192010-02-27T22:44:56.385-08:002010-02-27T22:44:56.385-08:00What am I missing...the new Sufism Reoriented chur...What am I missing...the new Sufism Reoriented church WILL be in a park, and one that will be open to the whole neighborhood for quiet and contemplation. Who else has provided that? And for free? Certainly no one else that I know of, and certainly not the County! This church site, and the Meher School nearby are actually the ONLY public accessible open space in the whole darn area! Really, the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-16921121574862017902010-02-27T08:07:16.699-08:002010-02-27T08:07:16.699-08:00should have read:
You don’t actually KNOW that yo...should have read:<br /><br />You don’t actually KNOW that you will dislike the aesthetics of the site and it’s clear that you appear to be ignoring the renderings that show it won’t be much visible in a few years.Still Old, but Less Grouchy and Less Grumpynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-65585105310873007682010-02-27T08:04:34.872-08:002010-02-27T08:04:34.872-08:00Thanks for clarifying that AKASM, because I think ...Thanks for clarifying that AKASM, because I think it's not helpful to the neighborhood's ability to get past this thing, once it's approved, to post with the slant that you took, as if thre really was some awful and new dispute about the EIR, because it wasn’t..<br /><br />It seems to me this "story" was really just a way to express your now openly expressed opposition. <br Still Old but Less Grouchy and Less Grumpynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-90833072404252966662010-02-27T07:28:36.777-08:002010-02-27T07:28:36.777-08:00Old Grouchy Grump,
Thanks for sharing your concern...Old Grouchy Grump,<br />Thanks for sharing your concerns about the axe that I'm grinding, and thanks for doing that research on Monticello.<br /><br />Oddly enough, my pathological obsession with this sanctuary debate did not drive me to visit Monticello. I was there on a family vacation, and had long wanted to visit. However, I confess that either during or after my visit, the thought Martha Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-37330383531388819832010-02-26T22:01:36.559-08:002010-02-26T22:01:36.559-08:00Grumpy- Just a friendly reminder that this is HER ...Grumpy- Just a friendly reminder that this is HER blog. Her choice of subjects. Her opinions. But did you notice that she even prints long winded rebuttals to people that disagree with her? BTW- I would really like to read your blog. Gotta link?Castle Hill Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18299914113286112818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-14441058936327617352010-02-26T21:34:59.594-08:002010-02-26T21:34:59.594-08:00Just making things clear here: AKASM said, in the ...Just making things clear here: AKASM said, in the same post:<br /><br />"Do I have an axe to grind? Not anymore, believe it or not. <br />.<br />.(lot of detail on axe)<br />.<br />"If I have an axe to grind, that's it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-32764165458419520952010-02-26T21:02:29.610-08:002010-02-26T21:02:29.610-08:00hmmm... I still feel that you were grinding pretty...hmmm... I still feel that you were grinding pretty hard on that axe... was your visit to Monticello motivated by your discussions with Sufis? If so, that's seems kind of telling.<br /><br />Monticello is 11' taller than the Sufi center, as its height is 44' 7" vs 33' 6" - or 33% higher, so I am not sure it's a fair comparison on a height/viewing basis, particularlyOld Grouchy Grumpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-91651761709886625652010-02-26T20:50:03.177-08:002010-02-26T20:50:03.177-08:00Let the Sufis build!
From what I've read abou...Let the Sufis build!<br /><br />From what I've read about this group, they're good community members and could be even more of an asset to the community with their center.<br /><br />A lot of buildings look absurd and disproportionately large and out of place from sky views but look fine from street-level. Every time some big new structure goes up somewhere, people freak out. Then, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-50501793727723754692010-02-26T20:09:11.642-08:002010-02-26T20:09:11.642-08:00Dear readers,
I have been in contact with represe...Dear readers, <br />I have been in contact with representatives of Sufism Reoriented... And they provided me with their newsletter as explaining their position on this most recent development. In fact, they contacted me, saying that they had decided to go along with the EIR plan. <br /><br />I just needed to verify this new development with the county. <br /><br />Do I have an axe to grind? Not Martha Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092931417080881172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-73884580437875971992010-02-26T19:38:15.602-08:002010-02-26T19:38:15.602-08:00Ok AKASM, I think what is bothering me here is tha...Ok AKASM, I think what is bothering me here is that last time you brought up this so-called news story, you at least gave the Sufis an opportunity to comment, and the story sounded as though you were being a journalist.<br /><br />This time, you are again hammering them like you were in the spring, which is why I asked about the axe to grind. I am not trying to start a huge debate, but perhaps Old Grouchy Grumpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-29735204853206841902010-02-26T18:14:54.368-08:002010-02-26T18:14:54.368-08:00As I understand it, they are not currently heritag...As I understand it, they are not currently heritage trees by the county's definition - however - at the time to apply to remove them, an application that includes an assessment of whether or not they are heritage is required.<br /><br />If they are borderline or even if they are heritage at that point, the developers can offer a mitigation for their removal - that is, they can offer to plant Old Grouchy Grumpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-67923448825890617542010-02-26T18:10:25.809-08:002010-02-26T18:10:25.809-08:00city of WC often makes different decisions than do...city of WC often makes different decisions than does CCCounty... <br /><br />Saranap is an unincorporated portion of county so county rules on issues in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239044155809741001.post-45640220766295410502010-02-26T17:49:38.442-08:002010-02-26T17:49:38.442-08:00Ok- I can't put an addition on my home because...Ok- I can't put an addition on my home because of a heritage oak (per the city of WC) and they can pull up SIX of them? WTF? How does that work?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com